Comments for Stepstudy.org http://stepstudy.org History and practice of the Twelve Steps Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:17:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ Comment on Three Views of Recovery by Butch R http://stepstudy.org/three-views-of-recovery/#comment-5101 Butch R Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:17:43 +0000 http://stepstudy.wordpress.com/?page_id=34#comment-5101 Dick B- I agree wholeheartedly......22yrs sober and I couldn't agree more. Dick B- I agree wholeheartedly……22yrs sober and I couldn’t agree more.

]]> Comment on A walk around St. Johnsbury by Dick B. http://stepstudy.org/2008/06/17/a-walk-around-st-johnsbury/#comment-5097 Dick B. Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:10:24 +0000 http://stepstudy.wordpress.com/?p=82#comment-5097 Thank you for posting this resource. The Dr. Bob Core Library has expanded even more since this article. Glad you appreciated the importance of this walk. And I hope many travel to Vermont to visit the Wilson House at East Dorset; the entire community of St. Johnsbury Vermont; and the Burr and Burton Academy in Manchester where Bill Wilson matriculated for four years, attended daily chapel, weekly Congregational services, a four year Bible study course, and was YMCA president. God Bless, Dick B. Thank you for posting this resource. The Dr. Bob Core Library has expanded even more since this article.
Glad you appreciated the importance of this walk. And I hope many travel to Vermont to visit the Wilson House at East Dorset; the entire community of St. Johnsbury Vermont; and the Burr and Burton Academy in Manchester where Bill Wilson matriculated for four years, attended daily chapel, weekly Congregational services, a four year Bible study course, and was YMCA president. God Bless, Dick B.

]]> Comment on Downloads by jimmie w http://stepstudy.org/downloads-2/#comment-5087 jimmie w Thu, 22 Jul 2010 02:13:18 +0000 http://stepstudy.wordpress.com/?page_id=12#comment-5087 We are currently in a 12 step workshop and i find that this is some the most usfull information to date . Thank you for this site.By the way im a member of cocaine anonymous . We are currently in a 12 step workshop and i find that this is some the most usfull information to date . Thank you for this site.By the way im a member of cocaine anonymous .

]]> Comment on Four Kinds of Moral Inventory (by James R.) by mike bruer http://stepstudy.org/2008/07/12/four-kinds-of-moral-inventory-by-james-r/#comment-5080 mike bruer Sun, 18 Jul 2010 10:04:53 +0000 http://stepstudy.wordpress.com/?p=131#comment-5080 If you are so plagued with alcoholic insanity that you need to take inventory, is it realistic that you will be able to effectively analyze and choose form this list offered? A lot of people would start drinking again before they could get their head around James R's comparisons. Not to say that this is bad information, but a new person in desperate need of recovery should be guided through the big book 4th step if they've chosen AA as their path. My own inventory taking is based on the 4 column inventory (with security in the 3rd column too) but has progressed to add some other things like identifying old ideas and a few other tweaks for more insight. I suffered from chronic relapse for ten years during which time people offered me variations of inventory, none of which revealed to me what the BB inventory does. If you are so plagued with alcoholic insanity that you need to take inventory, is it realistic that you will be able to effectively analyze and choose form this list offered? A lot of people would start drinking again before they could get their head around James R’s comparisons. Not to say that this is bad information, but a new person in desperate need of recovery should be guided through the big book 4th step if they’ve chosen AA as their path. My own inventory taking is based on the 4 column inventory (with security in the 3rd column too) but has progressed to add some other things like identifying old ideas and a few other tweaks for more insight. I suffered from chronic relapse for ten years during which time people offered me variations of inventory, none of which revealed to me what the BB inventory does.

]]> Comment on Three Views of Recovery by ninja7 http://stepstudy.org/three-views-of-recovery/#comment-5079 ninja7 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 07:50:22 +0000 http://stepstudy.wordpress.com/?page_id=34#comment-5079 I wonder if I can ask your question. There are a lot of agnostics here in Japan. Even Buddhists do not think their God in general. What do you think about your HP in AA? Or you do not follow AA? I wonder if I can ask your question. There are a lot of agnostics here in Japan. Even Buddhists do not think their God in general. What do you think about your HP in AA? Or you do not follow AA?

]]> Comment on Downloads by Pierre Faillettaz http://stepstudy.org/downloads-2/#comment-5073 Pierre Faillettaz Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:51:18 +0000 http://stepstudy.wordpress.com/?page_id=12#comment-5073 Many Thanks for your literary service. A favorite saying of any early sponsor may apply here, "we come to AA and tell our story until we get it right." Finally, it's been suggested that, it's simply God's story. Increasingly a tough sell, but perhaps, more attractive than ever. namaste Many Thanks for your literary service. A favorite saying of any early sponsor may apply here, “we come to AA and tell our story until we get it right.” Finally, it’s been suggested that, it’s simply God’s story. Increasingly a tough sell, but perhaps, more attractive than ever. namaste

]]> Comment on Three Views of Recovery by Ken C http://stepstudy.org/three-views-of-recovery/#comment-5072 Ken C Wed, 14 Jul 2010 23:38:20 +0000 http://stepstudy.wordpress.com/?page_id=34#comment-5072 I really enjoyed this article. It really clarifies a lot of things. The one place it falls short is a failure to mention our Traditions. A Twelve Step fellowship only has one message: "Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these Steps..." It is the goal of our Program. The purpose of our fellowship should be to support each other and hold each other accountable in that goal. Though the goals of psychology/psychiatry are noble, it is an outside issue to Twelve Step Fellowships. Though their methods are effective for many ailments, they are not effective in bringing about a spiritual awakening necessary for the recovery of true addicts/alcoholics. By definition, if someone can stop by human power (including meetings and psychology) they are a hard drinker/user. A real addict/alcoholic can only stop by accessing a Power Greater than human power. I really enjoyed this article. It really clarifies a lot of things. The one place it falls short is a failure to mention our Traditions. A Twelve Step fellowship only has one message: “Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these Steps…” It is the goal of our Program. The purpose of our fellowship should be to support each other and hold each other accountable in that goal.

Though the goals of psychology/psychiatry are noble, it is an outside issue to Twelve Step Fellowships. Though their methods are effective for many ailments, they are not effective in bringing about a spiritual awakening necessary for the recovery of true addicts/alcoholics.

By definition, if someone can stop by human power (including meetings and psychology) they are a hard drinker/user. A real addict/alcoholic can only stop by accessing a Power Greater than human power.

]]> Comment on Three Views of Recovery by Ken C http://stepstudy.org/three-views-of-recovery/#comment-5066 Ken C Sat, 10 Jul 2010 15:44:38 +0000 http://stepstudy.wordpress.com/?page_id=34#comment-5066 The very definition of alcoholic/addict is one who cannot stop w/o a spiritual experience/awakening. The very definition of alcoholic/addict is one who cannot stop w/o a spiritual experience/awakening.

]]> Comment on Three Views of Recovery by Ken C http://stepstudy.org/three-views-of-recovery/#comment-5065 Ken C Sat, 10 Jul 2010 15:40:44 +0000 http://stepstudy.wordpress.com/?page_id=34#comment-5065 I believe the Big Book says that we only need to be WILLING to believe. It does not actually require us to believe. Someone who is not willing will not have a conversion experience. It is just the open-mindedness to accept the possibility that I may not know everything. Among the things I don't know could there exist a Power greater than myself? I believe the Big Book says that we only need to be WILLING to believe. It does not actually require us to believe. Someone who is not willing will not have a conversion experience. It is just the open-mindedness to accept the possibility that I may not know everything. Among the things I don’t know could there exist a Power greater than myself?

]]> Comment on 1944 BILL GETS DEPRESSED by Dave S. http://stepstudy.org/1944-bill-gets-depressed/#comment-5064 Dave S. Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:01:37 +0000 http://stepstudy.wordpress.com/?page_id=25#comment-5064 Psychological and religious conversion views needn't be either/or. My sobriety and my life is always in God's hands. The 12x12 helps me connect the dots, understand the relationship between one's misdirected emotions and another's reactions. My life has not devolved into contemplating my navel. Psychological and religious conversion views needn’t be either/or. My sobriety and my life is always in God’s hands. The 12×12 helps me connect the dots, understand the relationship between one’s misdirected emotions and another’s reactions. My life has not devolved into contemplating my navel.

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