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	<title>Comments on: Sobriety</title>
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		<title>By: anne</title>
		<link>http://stepstudy.org/2009/02/08/welcome-2/#comment-1832</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have known for some time now that I have a drinking problem.  Now I want to do something about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have known for some time now that I have a drinking problem.  Now I want to do something about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieron. UK</title>
		<link>http://stepstudy.org/2009/02/08/welcome-2/#comment-1046</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kieron. UK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very well said. That&#039;s me too without the power (of God)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said. That&#8217;s me too without the power (of God)</p>
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		<title>By: tom f</title>
		<link>http://stepstudy.org/2009/02/08/welcome-2/#comment-1009</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 08:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s why we have the third step.  Turn it over, man, turn it over to your higher power whoever, whatever it is...just someone or something that you can consider greater than yourself, more powerful than yourself.  You say, &quot;Take that (booze, drugs) away and replace it with NOTHING??&quot;  No, replace them with your higher power, my friend, with your higher power.  &quot;May you find him now.&quot;  Your pain, restlessness, irratibility, discontentment will not go away until you do.  And, right now, you&#039;re not in this to please the people around you, you got to be doing it for you; man, get selfish, don&#039;t be so harfd on yourself, the solution is right there for your taking.  And if you don&#039;t know where to start, pick up the Big Book and read the third step prayer on page 63--read it over and over again and picture your higher power as though he or it is right in front of you and see (feel) what happens.  It&#039;ll happen, Tom, it&#039;ll happen.  And when you&#039;re ready to consider where all of this is going to take you, read the &quot;promises  (last paragraph, page 83 and first paragraph page 84.)  That&#039;s what you will experience, I PROMISE YOU, if you work the steps, the most important being turning it all, ALL, over to your higher power as you understand him.  God bless, friend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why we have the third step.  Turn it over, man, turn it over to your higher power whoever, whatever it is&#8230;just someone or something that you can consider greater than yourself, more powerful than yourself.  You say, &#8220;Take that (booze, drugs) away and replace it with NOTHING??&#8221;  No, replace them with your higher power, my friend, with your higher power.  &#8220;May you find him now.&#8221;  Your pain, restlessness, irratibility, discontentment will not go away until you do.  And, right now, you&#8217;re not in this to please the people around you, you got to be doing it for you; man, get selfish, don&#8217;t be so harfd on yourself, the solution is right there for your taking.  And if you don&#8217;t know where to start, pick up the Big Book and read the third step prayer on page 63&#8211;read it over and over again and picture your higher power as though he or it is right in front of you and see (feel) what happens.  It&#8217;ll happen, Tom, it&#8217;ll happen.  And when you&#8217;re ready to consider where all of this is going to take you, read the &#8220;promises  (last paragraph, page 83 and first paragraph page 84.)  That&#8217;s what you will experience, I PROMISE YOU, if you work the steps, the most important being turning it all, ALL, over to your higher power as you understand him.  God bless, friend.</p>
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		<title>By: tom forsythe</title>
		<link>http://stepstudy.org/2009/02/08/welcome-2/#comment-1008</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tom forsythe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 07:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think one is in sobriety or not; there&#039;s no &quot;some sobriety. Of course this depend&#039;s on one&#039;s definition of sobriety..  I subscribe to Dr. Terence Gorski&#039;s definition: sobriety=abstinence from addictive drugs + abstinence from compulsive behaviors + improvements in bio-psycho-social health.  To only be abstinent is being sober only.  Unless all three conditions in the above equation are  met, we might consider ourselves to be in our disease.  One cannot be &quot;somewhat pregnant&quot;.  it&#039;s all or nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one is in sobriety or not; there&#8217;s no &#8220;some sobriety. Of course this depend&#8217;s on one&#8217;s definition of sobriety..  I subscribe to Dr. Terence Gorski&#8217;s definition: sobriety=abstinence from addictive drugs + abstinence from compulsive behaviors + improvements in bio-psycho-social health.  To only be abstinent is being sober only.  Unless all three conditions in the above equation are  met, we might consider ourselves to be in our disease.  One cannot be &#8220;somewhat pregnant&#8221;.  it&#8217;s all or nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff J.</title>
		<link>http://stepstudy.org/2009/02/08/welcome-2/#comment-962</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely, without at least abstinence, the alcoholic has no shot at having the humility, open-mindedness and the willingness to atempt to take the steps and grow spiritually.
   The Big Book say&#039;s &quot;we feel elimination of drinking was but a beginning&quot; but a vital start it is, and sometimes it just has to be good enough, FOR NOW!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely, without at least abstinence, the alcoholic has no shot at having the humility, open-mindedness and the willingness to atempt to take the steps and grow spiritually.<br />
   The Big Book say&#8217;s &#8220;we feel elimination of drinking was but a beginning&#8221; but a vital start it is, and sometimes it just has to be good enough, FOR NOW!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim G</title>
		<link>http://stepstudy.org/2009/02/08/welcome-2/#comment-933</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sobriety, no matter how poor in quality, is at least a small, tenuous step in the right direction. Without abstinence from alcohol there is little chance to change our lives for the better. 

But without improving the quality of our sobriety (for most of us this means actively working the 12 Steps), our lives are often filled with such misery and pain that we feel that we might as well drink or die. 

With physical sobriety we may have the beginnings of hope.  That hope may be slight--hope against hope even.  There may be no light at the end of the tunnel, but the darkness is a shade less black. That&#039;s a start!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sobriety, no matter how poor in quality, is at least a small, tenuous step in the right direction. Without abstinence from alcohol there is little chance to change our lives for the better. </p>
<p>But without improving the quality of our sobriety (for most of us this means actively working the 12 Steps), our lives are often filled with such misery and pain that we feel that we might as well drink or die. </p>
<p>With physical sobriety we may have the beginnings of hope.  That hope may be slight&#8211;hope against hope even.  There may be no light at the end of the tunnel, but the darkness is a shade less black. That&#8217;s a start!</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Doniger</title>
		<link>http://stepstudy.org/2009/02/08/welcome-2/#comment-914</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shawn Doniger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 13:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are going to be miserable in recovery why bother.  You might as well get high.  No one ever told me it was going to be easy but it has definitely been better.  I fall short on a daily basis but today that bothers me.  I try not to repeat poor behaviors.  Recovery requires change and change is difficult and many times painful BUT, there is a light at the end of the tunnel.  Today I try to remain humble and grateful and honest in all my affairs.  Today it is not about me.  I care about others and myself.  G-d has opened my eyes and the Holy Spirit has filled my heart.  This is the kind of recovery I wish for everyone.  That whatever you are struggling with never hurts you again, ever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are going to be miserable in recovery why bother.  You might as well get high.  No one ever told me it was going to be easy but it has definitely been better.  I fall short on a daily basis but today that bothers me.  I try not to repeat poor behaviors.  Recovery requires change and change is difficult and many times painful BUT, there is a light at the end of the tunnel.  Today I try to remain humble and grateful and honest in all my affairs.  Today it is not about me.  I care about others and myself.  G-d has opened my eyes and the Holy Spirit has filled my heart.  This is the kind of recovery I wish for everyone.  That whatever you are struggling with never hurts you again, ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Dickerson</title>
		<link>http://stepstudy.org/2009/02/08/welcome-2/#comment-815</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tommy Dickerson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 22:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I entered into recovery, and until I found Christ, I acted out in very angry and mean spirited ways. Thank God that I never physically hurt my family, but life was very miserable for my wife and kids. The sobriety was not a happy place for those around me, at that time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I entered into recovery, and until I found Christ, I acted out in very angry and mean spirited ways. Thank God that I never physically hurt my family, but life was very miserable for my wife and kids. The sobriety was not a happy place for those around me, at that time.</p>
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		<title>By: davidindigitaland</title>
		<link>http://stepstudy.org/2009/02/08/welcome-2/#comment-668</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some rather than none for me... I can only keep what I have by giving it away, it&#039;s not a race or a competition... how much do I have? I have a treasure box overflowing and it&#039;s all yours, take it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some rather than none for me&#8230; I can only keep what I have by giving it away, it&#8217;s not a race or a competition&#8230; how much do I have? I have a treasure box overflowing and it&#8217;s all yours, take it!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon M</title>
		<link>http://stepstudy.org/2009/02/08/welcome-2/#comment-654</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alcoholics kill themselves and others.  This is a deadly disease for everyone. What we are really asking is, is it better to kill and die or to stop killing and dieing.  

I aggree with the idea that a &quot;worked&quot; sobriety is far better. That has truly been my experience.  You can become the person God intended for you to be before alcohol entered the picture.  But if all you can do is stop dieing, then I would not interfer or judge]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alcoholics kill themselves and others.  This is a deadly disease for everyone. What we are really asking is, is it better to kill and die or to stop killing and dieing.  </p>
<p>I aggree with the idea that a &#8220;worked&#8221; sobriety is far better. That has truly been my experience.  You can become the person God intended for you to be before alcohol entered the picture.  But if all you can do is stop dieing, then I would not interfer or judge</p>
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